Helen Hoard

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Marriage:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N497-GP2

Helen married Henry G. Brownell on 1 Feb 1883 in Taunton, Bristol Co, Massachusetts, USA. Henry (son of John R. Brownell and Rebecca E. (Unknown)) was born in Oct 1856 in Jersey City, Hudson Co, New Jersey, USA. [Group Sheet]

1. Brenton Grinnell Brownell was born in Oct 1883 in Taunton, Bristol Co, Massachusetts, USA; died on 16 Feb 1943 in Taunton, Bristol Co, Massachusetts, USA; was buried on 25 Feb 1943 in Boston, Suffolk Co, Massachusetts, USA.
2. Louis Earl Brownell was born on 29 Jun 1886 in Taunton, Bristol Co, Massachusetts, USA; died on 25 Apr 1944 in Taunton, Bristol Co, Massachusetts, USA.

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Marriage:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N4SQ-38Q

Living with his daughter Helen in the 1900 census.

Nathan married Frances Eliza Dean on 15 Dec 1853 in Taunton, Bristol Co, Massachusetts, USA. Frances (daughter of Barney Dean and Fanny (Unknown)) was born on 27 Aug 1830 in Taunton, Bristol Co, Massachusetts, USA; died before 1901. [Group Sheet]

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Marriage:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N4SQ-38Q

Name: Frances Eliza Dean Hoard
Gender: Female
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Birth Date: 27 Aug 1830
Birthplace: TAUNTON,BRISTOL,MASSACHUSETTS
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Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C50008-1
System Origin: Massachusetts-ODM
Source Film Number: 844826
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Collection: Massachusetts Births and Christenings, 1639-1915

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1850 Census Bristol, Rhode Island
John W. Hoar, 62, RI
Desire Hoar, 54, RI
Sarah Hoar, 21, RI
Manten or Martin Hoar, 17, RI

Email from Ann Sheets : asheets1298(at)gmail.com, Nov 2010
His gravesite is located "in the woods behind Juniper Hill Cemetery".

Cemetery:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=hoar&GSiman=1&GScid=1721758&GRid=116816892&

John married Deziah Simmons on 4 Nov 1817. Deziah (daughter of Jonathan Simmons and Elizabeth Smith) was born on 23 Mar 1794 in Newport, Newport Co, Rhode Island, USA; died on 20 Jun 1880 in Bristol, Bristol Co, Rhode Island, USA; was buried in Bristol, Bristol Co, Rhode Island, USA (Juniper Hill Cemetery). [Group Sheet]

Other Events:

• Census: 1880

Notes:

1850 Census Bristol, Rhode Island
John W. Hoar, 62, RI
Desire Hoar, 54, RI
Sarah Hoar, 21, RI
Manten or Martin Hoar, 17, RI

1880 United States Federal Census
Name: Desiah Hoar
Home in 1880: Bristol, Bristol, Rhode Island
Age: 86
Estimated birth year: abt 1794
Birthplace: Rhode Island
Relation to head-of-household: Self (Head)
Father's birthplace: RI
Mother's birthplace: RI
Occupation: House Keeper
Marital Status: Widowed
Race: White
Gender: Female
Household Members: Name Age
Desiah Hoar 86
Sarah H. Hoar 50 (Daughter, single, born RI)
Isaac L. Hoar 48 (Son, single, born RI)

Cemetery:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=hoar&GSiman=1&GScid=1721758&GRid=116816888&

Barney married Fanny (Unknown). [Group Sheet]

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http://dunhamwilcox.net/ri/rhode_island_vr21a.htm
Died age 81

Benjamin married Priscilla Waldron on 12 Jun 1785 in Bristol, Bristol Co, Rhode Island, USA. Priscilla (daughter of John Waldron and Elizabeth Allen) was born on 4 Jan 1758 in Bristol, Bristol Co, Rhode Island, USA; died on 16 Apr 1835 in Bristol, Bristol Co, Rhode Island, USA. [Group Sheet]

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Date: Fri Mar 16, 2007
From: Dave Pettee: Dapettee(at)aol.com
To: Roz Edson: MrsEdson(at)gmail.com
Subject: Priscilla, wife of Benjamin Hoar
I've had a major breakthrough re: "Mrs. Priscilla Gladding who m. Benjamin Hoar in 1785" Bristol Town Council and Probate Court, Book #2, Part 1, 1760-1792, page 361. On 5 December 1791, "Benjamin Hoar and Priscilla his wife appeared in council and prayed that administration might be granted to them on ther personal estates of her first husband, Joseph Pool, late of Bristol, mariner, deceased and also of her second late husband Ebenezer Gladding, late of said Bristol, mariner, deceased which was granted, they giving bond and performing other things as the law directs, Shearz. Bourn, Esq., and Nathaniel Pearse, Jr. yeoman are to give bond with said adminstrators."

Date: Sat Mar 17, 2007
From: Dave Pettee: Dapettee(at)aol.com
To: Roz Edson: MrsEdson(at)gmail.com
Subject: Re: Priscilla, wife of Benjamin Hoar
Roz-
Yep, some progress was made. However, this Joseph Pool guy is proving elusive, too, although there is a Joseph Pool who was living in Providence in 1777 and is recorded in the Military Census. This will take a day at the RI Archives to try to hunt him down.
So, having spent a day in Bristol chasing Priscilla, at the moment, here's where I am leaning. I don't have any idea if she was a Waldron. There are two things that suggest she could be; the naming of her son John Waldron Hoar(d) and if you back up 77 from 1835, the year of her death, it comes to 1758, which was the year she would have been born, if she was the dtr of John and Elizabeth (?) Waldron.
There were two John and Elizabeth Waldrons in Bristol.
There was John Waldron, Esq. b. in 1727, son of Joseph and Martha (Newton) Waldron. John married before 1751 Elizabeth (Allin), dtr of Mathew and Ruth (Stockbridge) Allin of Barrington.
There was John Waldron, Blacksmith, b. 1738, son of Cornelius and Ann (Throop) Waldron of Bristol. This John likely married Eliza (Martin) on 22 February 1757.
Here's the major problem, notwithstanding that I haven't found a marriage record for Priscilla (?) to Joseph Pool. The wills of John and Elizabeth (Allin) Waldron don't name her. She survived her parents by some 35 years, and was 15 years into her marriage with Benjamin Hoar with 6 kids, before her father died. John Waldron, blacksmith died intestate, as did his wife Eliza. Matthew Allin survived long enough to leave a will, and Priscilla isn't referenced. Could she have been a black sheep? Three marriages to mariners, but the first two died. Or, is it a concidence that Shearjashub Bourne was one of the yeoman who gave bond to Benjamin and Priscilla Hoar in 1791? Mr. Bourne was the husband of Ruth Waldron, dtr of John and Elizabeth (Allin) Waldron, so this Bourne would have been her brother-in-law.
I don't she is from this family.
So, if she is a Waldron, then is she the dtr of the other John and Eliza (Martin) Waldron? They don't seem to have had any children according to Bristol records, except maybe Priscilla, 11 months after they were married? One researcher in 1966 claimed the birth records that seem to place her in the family of John and Elizabeth (Allin) Waldron were recorded wrong because the transcriber forgot to add a 2nd after John Waldron, blacksmith's name. I have seem the handwritten draft that was copied by the LDS folks in 1980, not the orginal record, and there is no obvious 2nd recorded.
If we look at naming pattern of the children of Benjamin and Priscilla (?) Hoar,
Elizabeth- after her mother?
Hannah- paternal ggreat-mother?
John Waldron- father?
Mary?
William- Benjamin's father?
Abner-?

John Waldron, blacksmith, also had an older sister named Priscilla who died in 1741. Could he have named a dtr after? He was only 3 when his sister died.
So, as I tie this up, as a measuring stick, I would not feel ready to submit this to the Mayflower folks as Elizabeth Allin is a Richard Warren descendant. It doesn't stand on its own. Not yet.
I am treating her as someone with an unknown surname for the time being.
Dave

Jonathan married Elizabeth Smith. [Group Sheet]